@tao != though 😏 Public in this case I assume to mean "as:Public" w3.org/TR/activitypub/#public- -

> Activities addressed to this special URI shall be accessible to all users, without authentication.

Well, I hope the search engine is not indexing anything else..

@jaywink @tao it's also good to note that unlisted posts are also public in this way

@lain @jaywink @tao that sounds like a bug with "unlisted" posts, if they are public 🙄

@jaywink @tao well, they can be seen without access restrictions, so they are public in that sense.

@lain @jaywink @tao but then it works as expected I would think? If an unlisted post gets exposed to a public search engine, it stops being unlisted. There isn't really anything that one can do to have both "unrestricted" and "private" at the same time.

It's like sharing a secret URL on the Internet. That content is available to anyone who happens to get the URL.

Maybe the "unlisted" feature makes too strong a promise to users?

@jaywink @tao unlisted just means 'doesn't appear in the public timeline', nothing more.

@lain @jaywink @tao the trouble is its not a protocol feature, it's a platform feature. Really it should be an extension and not abusing as:Public.

@lain @jaywink @tao my implementation for example doesn't have this "unlisted" at all. Anything with "as:Public" gets attached a "Public" visibility which makes things available in the public streams, which don't require authentication 😉

@jaywink out of curiosity, and off topic to the main thread of discussion: why do you have "public" and "non-public" streams? Isn't one stream with different content based on being authenticated or not enough, or am I missing something?

@mariusor Currently there are various provided streams, like "Public", "Followed people", "Followed tags", "My content", "Local", for example. Non-public stream isn't so useful in its own, as you say.

What I've planned is for the user to be able to build custom streams using different criteria. So one could for example have "Followed people + Followed tags + all posts with images + any posts in Japanese" :) Or just a combo of the basic streams to provide the kind of base stream the user wants.

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